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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 9, 2007 7:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

OK, I'm listening to this 1970 post-Kent massacre you arm-twister you!

It's killer, so far - the stage announcement for the lost child by Garcia; and now China Cat Sunflower - a good edge on it for a '70 performance.

Not to simplify Kent State and the fallout, but in so many words, perhaps it took the wind out of the sails of thr larger widespread youth anti-war movement.

Or splintered it. The war remained a huge issue, but the dream of walking over Nixon was over.
In terms of mass involvement that might entail getting your ass blown away by some nervous National Guardsmen.

The GD to me are more about the drug revolution, the consiousness enhanced activism way more than anti-war.

In other words, more anti-narc or anti-straight than anti-military or anti-cop.

More interested in benefits for busted dope dealers/users than raising money for the Venceremos Brigade, but still counter-cultural.


How do I pick a show?

Sometimes I check the latest reviews on the Archive home page.

Don't always want to hear what I've already bookmarked or aquired unless researching for a post or review.

Or, not.

No hard and fast rules.


The 5 silver dollars I got recently in my chump change won't help much:

1889, 1923, 1923, 1925 and... wait... one from 1978!

Should I risk it?

Was that a good year for a particular show?
Tell me oh wise ones.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 9, 2007 9:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

well, '78 isn't exactly a year that cries out to me, and yet, i can't seem to get this show [4/16/78] out of my rotation, not that i am trying by any means, it's really quite good, excellent even, and a very worthy candidate for top 5 from the overlooked year of '78; seek ye out this version, quite brilliant really

Grateful Dead - April 16, 1978
Civic Center - Huntington, WV

Recording Info:
SBD -> Master Reel -> PCM -> Dat (44.1k)

Transfer Info:
Dat -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC
(3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC)

All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller
charliemiller87@earthlink.net
January 28, 2007

Notes:
-- Set 2 is seamless
-- This source doesn't have the flaws that the other sources have
-- Reel flip during Drumms fixed with crossfade

Set 1:
d1t01 - Tuning
d1t02 - Jack Straw
d1t03 - Dire Wolf
d1t04 - Cassidy
d1t05 - Peggy-O
d1t06 - Mexicali Blues ->
d1t07 - Mama Tried
d1t08 - They Love Each Other
d1t09 - New Minglewood Blues
d1t10 - Scarlet Begonias ->
d1t11 - Fire On The Mountain

Set 2:
d2t01 - Tuning
d2t02 - Samson And Delilah
d2t03 - Ship Of Fools
d2t04 - Estimated Prophet ->
d2t05 - Eyes Of The World ->
d2t06 - Drums ->
d3t01 - Space ->
d3t02 - Iko Iko ->
d3t03 - Sugar Magnolia

Encore:
d3t04 - U.S. Blues

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 9, 2007 9:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

OK, Arb - I'm playing the April 1978 show you rec'd. now.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-04-16.sbd.lai.292.sbeok.shnf

hmmm, may the baby Jesus open my mind and shut my mouth.

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Poster: wineland Date: Nov 9, 2007 10:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

Arb pointed out a great show. Also check out the Duke show. But the show I want to suggest has the most amazing Let It Grow. Yeah, I know, not the fanciest song, but this one smokes. Get the AUD here:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-05-14.sony.vernon.7639.sbeok.shnf

My suggestion would be to hear the Tapers version for the full effect:
http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/may-14-may-20-2007

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 9, 2007 5:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

wineland ... definite grate call on the Let It Grow, hands down probably best version ever ... can't download from taper section no more, but thankfully you can get it right here:

[...]

05-14_Let_It_Grow.mp3

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2007-11-10 01:16:42

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Poster: wineland Date: Nov 9, 2007 11:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

People, grab this while you can. It will make you a believer of LIG. Thanks Arb!

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 9, 2007 11:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

downing the mp now.

it is amazing, about coins, something I-Ching or in the fountain about 'em.

I really did get 5 silver dollars last week by luck in a plastic bag full of loose change (mainly pennies, dimes, etc.) given to me for helping clear out a storage area.

The owner didn't want to deal with sorting em out, and I ain't too proud.
I'll pass the Peace dollar coins along out to my nephew and nieces at Thanksgiving.

But, by chance, wineland and then arbuthnot got the most die-hard '60s GD listener to by chance pick 1978 and then take a listen to a show/song they picked.

Altho I didn't get the Charlie Miller extra brilliant version of April 16th, 1978, it's still a really good listen here at:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-04-16.sbd.lai.292.sbeok.shnf

Let It Grow... finished dl.

May even try some of those afore mentioned 73 shows, and that overlooked '69er mentioned in below thread.

Don't want to get "deaded out" as one thread earlier on etree was called; listening to just my own personal picks:

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/cream-puff-war

btw, I was surprised the links still work in the 5th post of this thread, for Frumious Bandersnatch and gd10-22-67
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=36813

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 9, 2007 11:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

huh, wavy-gravy wanna be, lol! ... damn, creampuff, i don't know whether to salute you or send you flowers ...

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Poster: wineland Date: Nov 10, 2007 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

So how was the LIG?

On the flip side, anything else you can recommend, especially in 67? I was recently introduced to Oct 68 shows and they were great. Perhaps your favorite Viola Lee.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 11, 2007 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How we pick shows...

To be honest, I didn't like the Let It Grow. Good sound quality tho. Hey, thank you for the link and rec.

1967 recs:
Viola Lee was especially sizzlin' at the O'Keefe from 1967-08-04

The opening zingers pull me right in, and the mid-section jam is just right, mellow and strange at the same time.
Over 20 minutes.

I like the VLB from 1967-03-18 a lot too.

Have you tried the 1967-06-18 Monterey Pop VLB?
Fantastic version. Also, it's available on film/video download on youtube, though the archive.org version (google it) is longer and sounds better than the youtube truncated outtake.
The outtake footage of the Dead playing VLB at Monterey Pop shows them giving it all they've got... on the reprise after the jam, Jerry holds up his right hand and jumps up, twice for good measure.

Also, have you seen PETULIA, the 1967 movie? (Release date 1968) - great footage of the Grateful Dead playing Viola Lee Blues. Big Brother rocks out Roadblock at the Fairmount Hotel, too.

There's the September 3rd 1967 version too, (the legendary Rio Nido VLB jam ends abruptly on LMA, but a more complete version has been added as a bonus on their remastered debut album which is also included with the Golden Roads box set).
The tune, an old jug band stomper, was the Dead's all-out show stopper during their '66 through '69 shows, and especially evokes their '67 tangle with the establishment if you will.





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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 11, 2007 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey wineland, arb & CPW

Cool reading your exchanges, guys...gone for a few days, and really enjoyed this one about how shows are selected and your interactions over dollars, 78 and such...

Great stuff in an understated kind of way.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 11, 2007 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey wineland, arb & CPW

Thx WT.

Here's our recs. for 1967:

3/18
5/5
6/17
6/18
8/4
8/5
9/3
10/22
11/10
11/11
(from the DH gang)


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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 11, 2007 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey wineland, arb & CPW

There you go--love the 3/18 & 5/5 (you know why), and the rest. Consider Oct & Nov two of the better months of that year.